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A Discussion on Spitfire Mk.V Cockpit Details
source:  Hyperscale  (thanks to Brett Green for permission)

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BlackDog
Spit Mk.Vb cockpit questions
Fri Oct 17
09:11:59
2003
I am beginning the Tamiya Spit Mk Vb (1/48) and have some docs about this type of Spit, but not much.

I was wondering if some of you has pics/URL to pics of Mk.V cockpits so I could check what I possibly need to superdetail/modify from the already quite nice Tamiya cockpit.

Also, is the cockpit floor made from wood ? it will be tricky to paint it if answer is yes (as it is molded as a single piece with struts and stuff above it) but I can try if needed.

Stu Hurley
Spit
Fri Oct 17 09:26:29 2003
There was no floor in the Spit's cockpit. The fuselage skin formed the floor. (snip). There isn't much you need to detail the Tamiya kit except some pipes from the undercarriage selector and one or two wires to make it look busy.

Rich D.
Tamiya Spitfire Vb Pic
Fri Oct 17 10:02:09 2003
Great Kit, suggest only using the Eduard Color photoetch set for the Mk.I (about $5 US )--nothing else required. Seatbelts alone are worth the price of the set.

Jon Bond
spit suggestion
Fri Oct 17 16:12:38 2003
I would also recommend Ultracast's Spitfire seat to jazz up the cockpit. It really is a beaut!

Brad
Spitfire Walk-a-rounds
Fri Oct 17 10:02:12 2003
If you cruise on over to ARC they have a nice selection of walkaround pics for the Spitfire from several different marks. As for the 1/48 Tamiya kit, unless you really wanna go hog wild, all you really need is the flexible oxygen hose. Bob Swaddling showed me a great use of a light bulb filament rolled in white glue trick that looks great once painted and dry brushed.

Rich D.
Suggested Spitfire Reference Books
Fri Oct 17 11:16:16 2003
I would pass on my idea of the ultimate Spitfire (Merlin) small reference collection:

1. Aero Detail 8: Vickers-Supermarine Spitfire Mk.I-V
2. Aero Detail 27 : Vickers-Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VI-XVI
3. Spitfire-Flying Legend by John Dibbs and Tony Holmes (Osprey Publication) (This is my favorite Spitfire Book--if you could only have one, this is it. Available from Amazon for about $14 US
)
4. Spitfire and Polished Metal, Restoring the Classic Fighter by Graham Moss and Barry McKee
5. The Supermarine Spitfire Part 1: Merlin Powered by Robert Humphreys (SAM Publication)

You can buy thicker and more detailed books for a lot more money, but the ones above combine the best of what is needed by modelers. All the Best, Rich

BlackDog
Re: Spit Mk.Vb cockpit questions
Fri Oct 17 14:05:56 2003
thanks for your help (answers, ideas, pics, books, etc).

I think I now have enough material to start the build. BTW, I ordered Ultracast resin seat (with built-in belts), and wheels.

I will probably scratch-build a few more details inside the cockpit, starting pics analysis now.

Dave Gibson
Don't forget to drop the elevators and
Sat Oct 18 06:13:52 2003
don't overdo the cordite like I did!


BlackDog
Re: Don't forget to drop the elevators and
Sat Oct 18 07:46:40 2003
Nice bird :-)

Dropping elevators means cutting off the moving surfaces on wing and stab ... Yuck ! Ok I will have a look at it )

Dave Gibson
Forget the wings ...
Sat Oct 18 12:41:36 2003
Drop the elevators by about 23 degrees and make sure the spade grip is touching the compass. With a Mk.V the cuts are easy. Hollow out the stabilizer and add a bit of styrene to the elevator. Round the elevator off and Bob's your uncle. ;)

Piece of cake.

Peter
Cutting the elevators is easy-sleazy
Sat Oct 18 11:18:41 2003
The lines between the elevators and horizontal stabs are straight lines with one bend. IIRC, there isn't a lot of detail there, so some swipes with an X-Acto blade and reattaching at an angle is pretty easy.

My understanding is (snip) that there was pressure or a pre-load, if you will, on the control system that caused the stick to move forward and the elevators to drop when the pilot released the stick.